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		<title>Why APBA downgraded pitchers (and why I think they stopped)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 03:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These three pitchers were no doubt cheated out of a better grade by APBA: 1990 Jose DeJesus DW 7 wins, 3.74 ERA,&#160; 22 starts, 130 IP 1979 Steve Busby DW 6 wins, 3.63 ERA, 22 games, 12 starts, 94.1 IP 1937 Spud Chandler D 7 wins, 2.84 ERA, 12 games, 10 starts, 82.1 IP (by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These three pitchers were no doubt cheated out of a better grade by APBA:</p>
<p><strong><em>1990 Jose DeJesus DW 7 wins, 3.74 ERA,&#160; 22 starts, 130 IP</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>1979 Steve Busby DW 6 wins, 3.63 ERA, 22 games, 12 starts, 94.1 IP</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>1937 Spud Chandler D 7 wins, 2.84 ERA, 12 games, 10 starts, 82.1 IP</em></strong></p>
<p>(by the way, this post and the research was inspired by a posting on <a href="http://forums.delphiforums.com/apbabtl/messages/?msg=32687.1">APBA- Between the Lines</a>.&#160; Check it out for some good insight). </p>
<p>There are reasons why, in the past, APBA had downgraded pitchers.&#160; </p>
<ul>
<li><em>limited appearances and innings </em></li>
<li><em>to bring the team’s overall strength within the scope of its actual potential </em></li>
<li><em>and to some degree, to compensate for control ratings </em></li>
</ul>
<p>Mostly though, it appears that those pitchers in past seasons suffered the most when they pitched a very low amount of games and/or innings. If a starter such as Chandler was given a B grade, perhaps it was thought that he would be used as such throughout the season as a full timer, giving his team an unfair advantage.</p>
<p>But it seems there was a change in recent times.&#160; Those Spud Chandlers of today would be given their due grade. </p>
<p><strong><em>Why the change?</em></strong></p>
<p>The APBA fans had more than likely made it known that the true grade was what they wanted.&#160; Let’s face it, baseball fans are more savvy now when it comes to baseball replays.&#160; They have better access to schedules, actual pitching rotations, and lineups and the like.&#160; If I’m doing a 1979 replay, I can quickly go to sites like Baseball Reference and get a quick read on how KC used their pitching staff.</p>
<p>More importantly, APBA fans want to be in control of the replays.&#160; It’s their business who they play and for how long.&#160; In APBA’s formative years, perhaps they attempted to “guide” us by downgrading pitchers who pitched well in a small sample size.&#160; By now, we’re ready to take command of our replays.&#160; </p>
<p>As a side note, the downgrading of pitchers in past years really hurt those who were in leagues with these pitchers.&#160; If I had Jose DeJesus on my team in 1991 (the year after his 1990 season), it would have been disappointing.&#160; Most leagues already implement some sort of limit system to prevent any sort of over use.&#160; So the idea, of downgrading a pitcher because of low actual innings was beyond the point.&#160; </p>
<p>That’s not to say some pitchers don’t still get downgraded but APBA realized this and started giving more representative grades.&#160; It’s a good change and one that most APBA replayers welcome. </p>
<p>By the way, if you can think of other egregious D pitchers wondering what they did to deserve their fate, pass them on. </p>

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		<title>The last series of the year means watching the limits</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Saturday will be the last series of the year for my Twin Cities Thunderchickens.&#160; No, I won’t be duking it out for a playoff spot.&#160; We’ve got last place pretty much sewed up, thank you.&#160; But that doesn’t mean there won’t be a little tension when I play the Green Rock Bombers this weekend.&#160; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.apbablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/limits.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px; margin: 5px 0px 5px 10px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="limits" border="0" alt="limits" align="right" src="http://www.apbablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/limits_thumb.jpg" width="242" height="109" /></a> This Saturday will be the last series of the year for my Twin Cities Thunderchickens.&#160; No, I won’t be duking it out for a playoff spot.&#160; We’ve got last place pretty much sewed up, thank you.&#160; But that doesn’t mean there won’t be a little tension when I play the Green Rock Bombers this weekend.&#160; </p>
<p>The Illowa APBA League, like many leagues, have a player limit system implemented.&#160; In short, we need keep from over-using our players.&#160; And I’ll be doing my best from doing that because there ARE consequences.&#160; </p>
<p>Those consequences are a possible drop in next season&#8217;s draft order.&#160; So you can see the incentive in dotting your ‘i’s and crossing your ‘t’s when it comes to players limits</p>
<p>Here’s the short version of our league’s player limits rules:&#160; non-pitchers must not play more than their actual games and at-bats.&#160; Pitchers must not pitch more than their actual games started, games relieved, and innings.&#160; There are some further rules about secondary positions probably not worth mentioning but if you’re interested, <a href="http://www.illowaapbaleague.com/ial-constitution">check out the IAL Constitution</a>.&#160; One thing that IS worth mentioning… D pitchers have their games and innings limits doubled and straight D pitchers (not D*) can always start.&#160; </p>
<p>So don’t think I’ve been playing my team all season without giving thought to my limits only to be faced with a multitude of limits issues this Saturday.&#160; Our league members all (I hope) keep an eye on them all year.&#160; It helps to calculate the AB/G of the games left in the season That way, I won’t get fooled if Albert Pujols has tons of games left but is low on at-bats.&#160; The same goes for IP/G.</p>
<p>That said, the last series of the season is a bit of nail biter.&#160; Unless we have been really good about resting our starters all season or REAL confident about our limits, it’s touch and go all series.&#160; Not only are we trying to win games but we are trying to keep within our sacred limits.&#160; Normally, we “do our limits” each month.&#160; In our last series, many of us are calculating our limits left after each game especially for the guys on the fence.&#160; And don’t get me started on the last game (“hold on I think this is Parra’s last out.&#160; Let me check, ok?”)</p>
<p>So going into the Thunderchickens’ last series, we look pretty good… as far as our hitters our concerned.&#160; Our pitching situation is tricky though.&#160; I’ll get by ok but I’ll have to keep a close eye on it. </p>
<p>I won’t help our place in the standings but gosh darn it, I’m not losing that first pick in the draft.</p>

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		<title>APBA Leagues:  How does your league handle player usage?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a post to start a discussion on how leagues limit player usage if at all. Why limit player usage at all?&#160; What&#8217;s the point? &#160; I guess a couple reasons.&#160; One is accuracy in stats.&#160; While it is true that if your APBA leagues of&#160; the 8-12 team variety and is drafting from the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a post to start a discussion on how leagues limit player usage if at all. </p>
<p><strong>Why limit player usage at all?&nbsp; What&#8217;s the point?</strong></p>
<p>&nbsp; I guess a couple reasons.&nbsp; One is accuracy in stats.&nbsp; While it is true that if your APBA leagues of&nbsp; the 8-12 team variety and is drafting from the entire MLB pool, your stats will be skewed.&nbsp; Batting averages will be down and ERAs will be high.&nbsp; (that&#8217;s not to say that some leagues get around this.&nbsp; Some may use stock teams.&nbsp; Others may artificially keep the draft pool limited.&nbsp; I&#8217;d love to hear how).&nbsp; </p>
<p>Another reason is realism.&nbsp; Closely related to accuracy but not quite the same thing.&nbsp; While I would love to bring in Brad Lidge in the second and leave in him to finish the game, it just isn&#8217;t realistic.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Finally, limiting player usage is just plain fair for everyone in the league.&nbsp; Managers can&#8217;t just draft that nifty rookie with no potential but whatta card! and bat him cleanup 162 games.&nbsp; You get the idea.&nbsp; </p>
<p>The Illowa APBA League handles player usage this way: </p>
<p><strong>Position Players are restricted to the number of games and at-bats</strong></p>
<p><strong>Pitchers are limited to games started, games relieved, and innings pitched</strong></p>
<p>Sounds simple enough but we have a couple complimentary rules that go along with it.&nbsp; Beginning with how we handle secondary defensive positions. </p>
<ul>
<li>If player has a position listed first on his card, he is unlimited at that position (up to his actual games). <font size="2"></font></li>
<li><font size="2">If a player played 40 games (inclusive) or more at a position, he is unlimited (again up to his actual games). </font></li>
<li><font size="2">If a player played 10 to 39 games (inclusive) at a position, he may play 40 games at that position.</font></li>
<li><font size="2">If a player played 1 to 9 games (inclusive) at a position, he may play 10 games at that position. </font></li>
<li><font face="Arial" size="2">If a player has a position on his card that he did not play, he may play 1 game at that position.</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font size="2">Maybe it sounds gratuitous but it gives us some leeway when draft time comes and we&#8217;re trying to fill our depth chart.&nbsp; </font></p>
<p>Regarding pitching, we have instituted a rule that helps out managers to stretch out their limits.</p>
<p><font size="2"><strong>&#8220;D&#8221; pitchers are limited to twice their games and innings. They may also be used in relief.</strong></font></p>
<p>The D pitchers rule does indeed help us and one would think it lead to skewed stats and D pitchers leading the league in IP and maybe some other categories since they are allowed to pitch so much.&nbsp; This usually is not the case (who wants to pitch a D anyway?) but I must confess that this year, my Thunderchickens&#8217; Scott Olsen is getting his share of innings due to me going with a smaller bullpen than I would like.&nbsp; Ugh! </p>
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<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<p>Overall, our player usage limit system works pretty well.&nbsp; It attempts to deal with the accuracy and fairness issues described above and does so fairly.&nbsp; I admit, it does nothing about the realism issue.&nbsp; There is nothing to prevent me from say, using my A* for the 2nd through 9th inning for every game till his innings ran out.&nbsp; Managers in our league are pretty good about stay pretty true to the game and we don&#8217;t see much of that. Let&#8217;s face it, it&#8217;s not in our team&#8217;s best interest.&nbsp; </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re good (and most of us are), we calculate our remaining limits for the players on our team after each month.&nbsp; Actually, I just have Excel just calculate it for me.&nbsp; If we happen to go over our limits at the end of the season (hey, it happens to the best of us), there is the chance our draft position will be penalized.&nbsp; So we do our best to keep both eyes on our limits. </p>
<p>If anyone else out there in leagues has other methods of limiting players so that supercard pinchitter doesn&#8217;t play every day, I&#8217;d love to hear them.&nbsp; Leave a comment!&nbsp; </p>
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